Showing posts with label rifqa's parents. Show all posts
Showing posts with label rifqa's parents. Show all posts

Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Rifqa Bary Part II: The fake apostate conspiracy By Davi Barker

September 3, 4:46 AMSF Muslim Examiner - Davi Barker

There is no might or power on earth or in Heaven greater than God.

WND located this photo of Tayee Adrian, Rifqa's liason with Xenos Cult.



I'm way out on a limb here, but I think I figured it out! Tell me if this makes sense... if you're just tuning in go back and read Rifqa Part I: The Xenos Cult

It's 2:44 am, and I haven't slept, but the trial is today and I don't have time to polish this, so here's some real gonzo journalism. I do this all for you, my dear reader.

The Franklin County Children Services in Ohio conducted a nearly month long investigation and concluded that the allegations against Muhammad Bary were unsubstantiated and it was safe for Rifqa to return home. Although they recommended therapy for the girl, and Muhammad agreed the whole family could use counseling.


That's bad for the anti-Muslim narrative, so John Stemberger filed a memorendum basically saying, "No it's not the Dad... it's the whole community!" Basically the Noor Islamic center is connected to Dr. Saqr, who's connected to Salah Soltan, who's connected to Al-Qaradawi, who's connected to Al Qaeda and Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood and all the evil people in the world. He actually said this is the memorendum. "The Muslim Brotherhood... an international organization responsible for birthing virtually every Islamic terrorist organization in the world!"

Therefore Ohio is not safe. Carry out that arguement all 10,000 Muslims at the Noor Islamic Center Community are terrorists by association. Let's just take away all their kids and give them to good evangelical families? I'll tell you one thing reader... if she's not safe in Ohio, she's not safe in Florida. All it took was a little creative Googling and I was able to determine the likely address where she's staying*... But I digress.

Oh my dear reader! I can play the association game. Check this out...

My contacts in Ohio on the case say that Xenos materials and a Flash drive containing the diary of Pastor Brian Williams were found in her bedroom and were turned over to police. They also confirm that I was right about the man in the room in the video as I described in Part I. That he was bald, had a goatee. They tell me he was also at the hearing on the 21st and addressed Muhammad Bary is "Brother" like a Muslim. But this guy was not a Muslim. He was interviewed after the trial in Florida twice by CBN:


This guy is Jamal Jivanjee.
Jamal Jivanjee claims to be a Muslim apostate from Columbus. He befriended Rifqa in Columbus long before she fled to Florida. He was also at the court house Friday August 21st. Bald guy with a goatee.


Ok... check this out.

If he's the coach in the first video, that means he went with Rifqa from Ohio to Florida. And that means that this is probably the guy that Lorenz is protecting when he says he doens't want to reveal who bought her the ticket.

"The pastor won't say who bought Rifqa's ticket. He is trying to protect the person" ~ Orlando Sentinal

I'd even bet (if I were a betting man) that there is no ticket and Jamal drove her the whole way.

But it get's better...
Jamal Jivanjee is on the board of directors of "illuminate" and on his bio he says he's a graduate of Liberty University in Lynchburg, VA where he studied Pastoral ministry. The President of the Liberty Theological Seminary and Professor of Apologetics at Liberty University is Ergun Mehmet Caner. Ergun Caner was interviewed by the Florida Baptist Witness early in the Rifqa contraversy but he dropped out of the frey.


Ergun claims to be another Christian convert from Islam from Columbus Ohio, and claims that he lives his life with a fatwa against his life from that community, which makes him uniquely qualified to speak about this case. This man is a complete charlatan! He is a fraud! He is a liar! A dajjal! I strongly suggest you take a look at this video. It's the first in an eight part series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRDyOaCJ3t0&feature=player_embedded

Ergun Mehmet Caner is FAKE apostate. He and as his brothers are these Christians that go around claiming to be ex-Muslim preaching lies about how aweful being a Muslim is. If you didn't watch the series here's some highlights. He claims his father built that mosque, and that he was trained to be the muadhin, but he misprounounces it! In part 2 he says the Shahada is "bismillakh aman arakhim mukhamdu alham arakhman arakhim." In part 3 he says that Ramadan is 40 days, and he says, "Jesus strapped himself to a cross so I wouldn't have a stap a bomb to myself." And he's always careful to point out that apostates risked their culture, families and lives for Jesus by leaving Islam. This man was never a Muslim!


So we're dealing with liars. And what's worse, they train other fake apostates! This is the sourse. This is the propagandist. The brainwasher. Ergun trains anti-Muslim propagandists. Jamal is a student of Ergun. Rifqa is a "friend" of Jamal. These are the people who turned typical arguments between a completely westernized teenage cheerleader and her liberal parents into death threats and honor killing from Islamic jihadists in Rifqa's mind.

That's all I have for now. It's not proof yet, but I think this raises some serious questions about how all these people are connected. It's still just a theory. But I think it's a stronger chain of reasoning than "They're all TERRORISTS!" Hopfully it comes full circle in the trial today.

* Clarifiaction Added 09/14/09 - Apparently this has really upset the Anti-Muslim Brain Trust who think that I am stalking Rifqa Bary. I've gotten a number of hateful and threatening messages about this thanks to an article about me by Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs. Frankly, I'm more consumed with the final 10 days of Ramadan, which is more important to me than engaging with Pamela, but I feel compelled to make some response.



To be clear I did not seek out this address. I will not share it, and I don't believe she is in any real danger. I discovered it accidentally during my normal investigative process. My point was to demonstrate that the debate over her safety in Ohio or Florida is a red herring. I personally feel the motivation in fighting to keep the case in Florida, and not Ohio where the alleged crime, all the witnesses, and all the evidence is, is because the child protection laws are more in their favor in Florida. If a person is genuinely concerned for Rifqa’s safety, as I am, her safety in Florida no different than her safety in Ohio.


Further, if Pamela truly believed that my statement was dangerous why would she post it? She took the quote from a small time writer with an average of 200-300 hits per article out in California, and posted it on her site, which gets thousands of hits, specifically from people following the case in Ohio and Florida. It makes no sense. What she has done is revealed herself and her priorities. Clearly she is more concerned with her narrative about Islam and Muslims than the Truth, or the actual safety of the girl.


It never occurred to me that the statement might be dangerous, and I honestly don't think it is. I was making a point about security theater. I have taken a stance against the punishment for apostasy, in favor of Rifqa’s emancipation, against collective guilt, and for presumed innocence for all parties. If Pamela had done any investigation she would have discovered this instantly.


Some have asked me to edit the article, but I will not. I'm sure Pamela has already taken a screen shot, and if I remove it now she will just publish the screen shot, putting more eyes on this statement she deems so dangerous. But for now, I'm not sweating it. I will continue to espouse what I believe to be True, though they dislike it. I will not be intimidated by her, or the threats of her cronies.


I have decided that the best course of action is to collected the contact information for the relevant authorities which Pamela advises her readers to report me to, and inform them how and where I came across this address so they can remove it if they feel it compromises her security in any way. I leave it in the capable hand of those security agencies.


I'm relatively certain that when the gag order comes off the police reports this will all blow over. And if it doesn't, I will certainly eat my words, and stand on which ever side protects the well being of the girl.

Friday, September 4, 2009

Rifqa Bary's Parents Speak



There are a few points to note in the YouTube video by Mohomad Bary and Aysha Bary.
  • Mohomad Bary says he came to America in 2000 for Rifqa's treatments in her eye. They came to New York and had it done. If he could show such concern just for his daughter's eyes then what say about her life? Without say, he values it and treasures it.



  • They had moved to New Albany because the colleges there are ranked 10/10, so it wasn't a terrorist connection or movement or influence that had lead him to move into this part of the country but the fact that his children could get the BEST of education.



  • He says his daughter is an A/B grade student. He also says she is a 3.5 gpa student. The way he says it shows how proud he is of his daughter and he is not at all ashamed or regretful of the fact that his daughter is good in studies and wants to support her by giving her even better chances. He says he wants her to stand on her own feet. Certainly not on other people's mercy or coaching!



  • He says that when Rifqa was 14 years old she mentioned in a form for baby-sitting that she mentioned the religion as Christianity. He just advised her at that time. One year ago his son told him Rifqa was carrying a Bible in school and trying to convince others. He just advised her,  it's not something that should be done when in school. 4 months back one his friends told him of Rifqa's facebook account and he confronted her and still he didn't threaten her. He even had given the laptop back to her even though he didn't want to do so, saying it's the biggest mistake he did when he gave the laptop to her. Even at that point he was thinking of his daugher's education. Such a concerned father is termed "radical", "extreme", "violent", "abusive".



  • Mohomad Bary says he came in as a family and want to have her back as a family. Does this show intentions of wanting to kill? He has continously said that she is free to practice any religion she wants to at his home. How many families send their daughters for cheerleading in such a dress? But this father allowed his daughter to indulge in every fancy of hers and not only that he proudly frames two photographs of her in the cheerleading outfit and keeps it in his living room where every one can see it! This incident was in 2008, just last year. Does it show a violent radical person? In every way this mother and father were proud of their daughter and her achievements!He says he has not imposed anything on his children and they were free to do as they wished!



  • Her mother Aysha Bary says she misses her daughter every single day, every single minute. She doesn't look like a woman who is speaking for the sake of making "a show" out of the whole thing or in the hope of misleading Rifqa back into their house. She says she wants Rifqa back home and that she has only ONE daughter. They HONESTLY want their daughter back!



  • Mohomad Bary says The Global Revolution Church USE teenagers and he doens't want Rifqa to be a victim of this group. By the way why can't these Church group like Global Revolution Church and Xenos Christian Fellowship target adults? Why always pick on children and teenagers? Is it because teenagers and children are more gullble and will follow without too much doubt? Where do these organizations get their money to function? Don't you smell a rat here?



  • He says that first Rifqa hated her friends and then family. This can happen to anyone. What will you do if your  child comes tomorrow and says the church that you go to is not correct and they want to be baptized again and shun you? These groups are encouraging the children to move out of their parents lives, not to keep them with the parents. If such a doctrine is practiced then how could such a theology be right. Which religion says that  a family should be broken up and the children torn apart from the family and friends? If this happens to anyone else and their child goes across from one state to another then they might never see their child again and the child can easily say that the father threatened to kill him/her. So this will be the Rifqa Bary way of handling parents!



  • The pastor of Colombus, Ohio -  Brian Williams was warned by the police about Rifqa's disappearance and that's when pastor Blake Lorenz called and informed the police of her whereabouts. At the same time Brian Williams calls Rifqa's brother and says that he baptized her and then THREATENES by saying that if Rifqa returns to her parents then the parents will be in BIG TROUBLE! Now what about this threat? Who is going to the media about this? Or is it going to be hushed down because this is a muslim speaking and not a christian? Not only that but pastors Brian Williams and Blake Lorenz are facebook friends! 

  • Every one is shouting about what the law should be doing to protect Rifqa but what about the pastor Lorenz who kept a minor in his home for 2 1/2 weeks without informing the authorities and without legal rights! There has been no case filed agains him till now. Is everyone waiting untill another child is abducted or lured into his system and then say it's too late?

  • Some attorneys from Rifqa's side said she made two phone calls to the Child Services but when the court called to check it there was no such call made! So who is telling lies now?



  • Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country and only 7% are muslims there. He personally went to a Christian/Catholic School (St.Aloysius College) and in the mornings he says everyone had to say the Christian prayes! His best friend is a Christian: Gary Abbot from Atlanta, Georgia and had known him for more than 20 years. Most of the friends he deals with, his business colleagues are Christians.